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witam Panowie,

Od jakiego czasu borykam sie z problemem, otoz na postoju moj passat strasznie kopci.

nie bierze oleju, plynu z chlodnicy nie ubywa. po ruszeniu kopcenie ustepuje.

zwiedzilem kilku mechaniorow, przerabialem zmiany paliwa czyszczenie ukladu wtryskowego i nadal nic.

jeden z mechanikow sugerowal uszkodzenie wtryskow ( jeden lud dwa) ale nie mogl sprawdzic dokladnie, sugerowal podpiac go do kompa i sprawdzic kanaly 13,18 i 23.

VCDS lite zrobil logi ale musze prosic kolegow o pomoc w analizie :)

 

 

Saturday,11,July,2015,12:45:58

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Edited by rainman777
Przeniesiony do prawidłowego działu. Używamy polskich znaków ;)

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Wrzuć logi przez vaglog.pl bo ciężko się to czyta

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Wtryski wygkadaja ok. Tak wiec to nie one. Dym jakuego koloru czarny czy jaki?

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dym koloru białego, strasznie gryzący. nie ubywa oleju ani płynu chłodzącego.

dym pojawia się tylko na postoju, w czasie jazdy nigdy nie kopci.

przed zakupem auta od niemca sprawdziłem po VIN, ze passat miał wymienione wtryski i listwe elektryczna 4 mc przez moim zakupem, wiec teorie mechaników o uwalonym wtrysku tez wydały mi sie naciągane. mechanicy twierdza, że gryzący zapach i biały dym sa z niedopalonego paliwa.

 

DPF czysty i sprawdzony, ciekawi mnie jaki moze mieć wpływ EGR?

nie czyściłem EGR wiec nie moge wypowiedzieć sie jaki jest jego stan, ale czy sa przesłanki ze przez niego moze kopcić białym dymem na postoju?

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mozesz rozwinąć swoj komentarz?

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Jeśli śmierdzi ropą to nie koniecznie muszą być uszkodzone wtryski czy pompowtryski, to nie zawsze świadczy o ich uszkodzeniu, tym bardziej że wody nie ubywa itp itd. Może to świadczyć o braku ciśnienia na cylindrach...

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Jeśli śmierdzi ropą to nie koniecznie muszą być uszkodzone wtryski czy pompowtryski, to nie zawsze świadczy o ich uszkodzeniu, tym bardziej że wody nie ubywa itp itd. Może to świadczyć o braku ciśnienia na cylindrach...

 

Czy to oznacza, ze na biegu jalowy m moze byc inne cisnienie niz w jadacym aucie?

Czy to cisnienie da sie sprawdzic Vag com, wiesz moze jaki to kanal w vag com?

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Czy to oznacza, ze na biegu jalowy m moze byc inne cisnienie niz w jadacym aucie?

Nie, ale za jadącym autem raczej nie widać dymu, chyba ze bardzo mocno kopci.

 

Czy to cisnienie da sie sprawdzic Vag com, wiesz moze jaki to kanal w vag com?

Nie ma takiej opcji, trzeba sprawdzić manometrem bezpośrednio podpitym pod silnik.

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ale jak juz jedziesz za takim autem to widac czy kopci. tak więc powtarzam, jak auto jedzie to nie kopci.

problem pojawia się tylko gdy passek stoi.

 

ale wracając do tropu słabego ciśnienia, poprawcie mnie jeśli się mylę, że to oznacza ze gdyby było niższe ciśnienie auto nie utrzymywało by na postoju równych obrotów?

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zdecydowalem się na diagnoze w autoryzowanej stacji BOSCH:

zdiagnozowano uszkodzony 1 i 4 wtrysk, dodatkowo są to wtryski SIEMENS. podobno nie naprawia się wtryskiwaczy SIEMENS i tylko sie wymiania na nowy. koszt zakupu to ok 1300-1700 zł, wiec podjełem decyzje o poszukaniu uzywanych ( oczywiscie wiem ze to loteria) jednak kwota nowych jest zaporowa.

moje wtryski maja numer 03g130073tx, a na rynku są 03g130073t ( bez X na końcu) stąd moje pytanie do osób znających się na wtryskach:

1. czy bez X na końcu będą pasowały do mojego auta ( Silnik BMR 170 koni 2006)

2. czy po wymianie wtrysków trzeba je jakoś adoptować w kompie, czy wystarczy że mechanicznie się je podmieni i juz,

3. widzę na rynku o tych samych numerach wtryski firmy continental, czy one są zamienne z siemens i czy będa pasowac do moich pozostałych

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