Dołożenie manetek zmiany biegów przy kierownicy do skrzyni DSG

[miirmar]

Czy jest możliwość dołożenia manetek, poprzez zamianę kierownicy z takiej bez manetek na taką z manetkami, do skrzyni DSG. Mam wprawdzie Tourana a nie Passata ale najprawdopodobniej sprawa jest uniwersalna z w tym zakresie. Mój egzemplarz jest z 2016 r. z rynku francuskiego i nie mam manetek. Pytanie czy wymaga to tylko zmianę kierownicy i przekodowanie czy wymaga to "głębszych" zabiegów, wymiany podzespołów.

Dzięki uprzejmości kolegi z forum Tourana mam autoscan, ale na tamtym forum dominują użytkownicy starszych generacji i w zakresie mojego modelu niewiele się mogę doweidzieć. Czy przy wyposażeniu w takie sterowniki jest możliwość zmiany kierownicy na taką z manetkami do zmiany biegów? Czy wymagałoby to większych ingerencji i zmian?

Thursday,29,August,2019,20:00:42:50255
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows XP x86
VCDS Version: 17.8.1.0
Data version: 20171130 DS276.6
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VIN: WVGZZZ1TZGW563250 License Plate:
Mileage: 126710km-78733mi Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: 1T-VW37 (5Q0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 10 13 15 16 17 19 2B 42 44 52 55 5F 6D A5


VIN: WVGZZZ1TZGW563250 Mileage: 126710km-78733miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
13-Auto Dist. Reg -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
6D-Trunk Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
A5-Frt Sens. Drv. Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010

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Address 01: Engine (J623-DFEA) Labels:. 04L-907-309-V1.clb
Part No SW: 04L 906 026 EA HW: 04L 907 309 M
Component: R4 2,0L EDC H23 1761
Revision: B4H23---
Coding: 011D003203641D083000
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01104L906026EA 001003
ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01104L906026EA_001.rod
VCID: 6DDBB3EBBC55B12E4A-8038

1 Fault Found:
4515 - Radiator Fan (V7)
P1950 00 [032] - Movement Restricted / Jammed
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 8
Mileage: 119153 km
Date: 2019.07.12
Time: 17:52:12

Engine speed: 1878.50 /min
Normed load value: 85.5 %
Vehicle speed: 89 km/h
Coolant temperature: 99 °C
Intake air temperature: 154 °C
Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 13.400 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 36
Air mass: specified value: 250.0 mg/stroke
Coolant temp. sensor 1 bank 1 at cylinder head: raw value: 2222.0 °C
Heat delivery temperature in cooling system: -273.1 °C
Extern.temp.sens.1 bank 1: raw value: 26.5 °C
Coolant fan 1: activation: 26.19 %
Fuel temp. sensor 1 bank 1: raw value: 57.4 °C

Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

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Address 02: Auto Trans (J743) Labels: 0D9-927-770.clb
Part No SW: 0D9 300 041 H HW: 02E 927 770 AQ
Component: DQ250-6F MQB H53 4901
Revision: 06253104 Serial number: TFK01602091088
Coding: 0014
Shop #: WSC 04742 780 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDQ250021 001001
ROD: EV_TCMDQ250021_VW37.rod
VCID: 1D3BA32B0C7581AE9A-8048

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels:. 5Q0-907-379-IPB-V1.clb
Part No SW: 3Q0 907 379 AB HW: 3Q0 907 379 G
Component: ESC H42 0723
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 60436000003041
Coding: 0CEA6AA034268B6F0779060541C32930562CD1E0608294F53862F078C222
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB 034036
ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB_034_VW37.rod
VCID: 7AF188B7FD1B1696DF-802E

1 Fault Found:
16401 - Tire Pressure Warning
C102D 00 [008] - -
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 4
Reset counter: 148
Mileage: 118109 km
Date: 2019.07.11
Time: 11:16:47


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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J518) Labels:| 5Q0-959-435.clb
Part No SW: 3Q0 959 435 C HW: 3Q0 959 435 C
Component: VWKESSYMQB 036 0710
Revision: 00036000 Serial number: 0395648562
Coding: 030C0C0F03
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_KessyHellaMQBAB 004032
ROD: EV_KessyHellaMQBAB_004_VW37.rod
VCID: 3A7148B7BD9BD6969F-806E

Sensor Controlled Power Rear Lid:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3G0 962 243 A HW: 3G0 962 243 A
Component: GEB.F.Heckoef H17 0903
Serial number: 98017115

1 Fault Found:
221700 - Sensor for Rear Lid/Hatch Opening
B1303 31 [008] - No Signal
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 135
Mileage: 124336 km
Date: 2019.08.12
Time: 12:25:30


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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255) Labels:| 5G0-907-044.clb
Part No SW: 5G0 907 044 BF HW: 5G0 907 044 BF
Component: Climatronic H04 1202
Revision: 00001K10
Coding: 0802010420310001110510000010100A
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X 005137
ROD: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X_005_VW37.rod
VCID: 6CDDBEEF874FB8265D-8038

Fresh Air Blower Front:

Refrigerant Pressure And Temperature Sender:

Control module for auxiliary air heater:

Air quality sensor:

1 Fault Found:
1048833 - Function Limitation due to Compressor Shut-Off Request By Engine
B10F0 00 [008] - -
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 5
Reset counter: 118
Mileage: 119157 km
Date: 2019.07.12
Time: 17:54:35

Voltage terminal 30: 13.2 V
Compressor shut-off requirement: Shut-off of engine control module via CAN (T > 15 sec.)


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:| 5Q0-937-08X-HV1.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 937 086 AK HW: 5Q0 937 086 AK
Component: BCM PQ37BOSCH 028 0162
Revision: -------- Serial number: 865818021600Y0
Coding: 00011B42C24102FB57E440180004132C1880000000000000000000000000
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_BodyContrModul1UDSBosc 015002
ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_015_VW37.rod
VCID: 030FF5538AD1575E8C-8056

Control Unit For Wiper Motor:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5TB 955 119 A HW: 5TB 955 119 Labels: 5QX-955-119-V1.CLB
Component: WWS 160112 043 0608
Coding: 0E4DDD

Rain Light Recognition Sensor:

Relative Air Humidity Interior Sender:
Ş

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J791) Labels:| 5Q0-919-298.clb
Part No SW: 5QA 919 298 HW: 5Q0 919 298 C
Component: PLA 3.0 12KH08 0161
Serial number: 000305183616049
Coding: 0271163851
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA2CAU3700000 009017
ROD: EV_EPHVA2CAU3700000_009_VW37.rod
VCID: 0D1BD36BDC95112EEA-8058

No fault code found.

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Address 13: Auto Dist. Reg (J428) Labels:| 3Q0-907-572.clb
Part No SW: 3Q0 907 572 B HW: 3Q0 907 572 B
Component: ACC BOSCH MQB H04 0192
Coding: 320067C351FFC428949C804D
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_ACCBOSCHVW48X 001008
ROD: EV_ACCBOSCHVW48X.rod
VCID: 346D668F9FFF20E645-8060

2 Faults Found:
0932 - Transmission Temperature Monitoring
P1764 00 [008] - -
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 112
Mileage: 120238 km
Date: 2019.07.18
Time: 23:31:32

Control Module temperature: 41 °C
Voltage terminal 15: 13.1 V
Velocity_vehicle_reference: 0.50 m/s
Longitudinal_acceleration_vehicle_reference: -0.21 m/s˛
Status_ACC_System: ACC_StandBy

0836 - Databus
U1123 00 [008] - Received Error Message
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 254
Reset counter: 148
Mileage: 117613 km
Date: 2019.07.05
Time: 09:01:18

Control Module temperature: 20 °C
Voltage terminal 15: 11.3 V
Velocity_vehicle_reference: 0.00 m/s
Longitudinal_acceleration_vehicle_reference: 0.00 m/s˛
Status_ACC_System: ACC_Off_MainSwitch_Off


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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels:| 5Q0-959-655.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 959 655 AE HW: 5Q0 959 655 AE
Component: AirbagVW21 005 0130
Serial number: 003NSR1GN787
Coding: 98FCC0C00C0000005C5400CF004800000065
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X 002146
ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X_VW37.rod
VCID: 030FF5538AD1575E8C-8056

Belt Pretensioner left:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4M0 980 945 A HW: 4M0 980 945 A
Component: BeltPretRevFL 106 1032
Serial number: 5TB857705E0050Q00760
Coding: 80000D

Belt Pretensioner right:
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 4M0 980 946 A HW: 4M0 980 946 A
Component: BeltPretRevFR 106 1032
Serial number: 5TB857706E0053Q00216
Coding: 80000D

Side Sensor Driver Front:
Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 002 502 16
001 SideSensor_Df
Serial number: 35700000000E578C591X

Side Sensor Passenger Front:
Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 002 502 16
Component: SideSensor_Pf 001 0887
Serial number: 358000000002578C591M
Coding: 2D2D2D

Side Sensor Driver Rear:
Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 412 502 16
Component: SideSensor_Dr 003 0189
Serial number: 351001A011ACA960FFBO
Coding: 2D2D2D

Side Sensor Passenger Rear:
Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 412 502 16
Component: SideSensor_Pr 003 0189
Serial number: 352001A011ACA8C2BE0G
Coding: 2D2D2D

Front Sensor Driver:
Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 402 202 16
Component: FrontSensor_D 000 6149
Serial number: 3550001B71EED23441BD
Coding: 2D2D2D

Pedestrian Protection Driver:
Subsystem 8 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 402 202 16
Component: PedP_Sensor_D 000 6149
Serial number: 2280001AF1EE2184B2CL
Coding: 2D2D2D

Pedestrian Protection Passenger:
Subsystem 9 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 402 202 16
Component: PedP_Sensor_P 000 6149
Serial number: 2290001B71EED236533A
Coding: 2D2D2D

Pedestrian Protection Center:
Subsystem 10 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 402 202 16
Component: PedP_Sensor_C 000 6149
Serial number: 2300001AF1EE2183C606
Coding: 2D2D2D

Pedestrian Protection Driver 2:
Subsystem 11 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 001 502 16
Component: PedPSensor_D2 001 0887
Serial number: I0M0000000065DD42917
Coding: 2D2D2D

Pedestrian Protection Passenger 2:
Subsystem 12 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 001 502 16
Component: PedPSensor_P2 001 ---
Serial number: I0N0000000067DD4291A

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J524) Labels:| 5Q0-953-549.clb
Part No SW: 3Q0 953 521 R HW: 5Q0 953 569 A
Component: Lenks.Modul 075 0195
Revision: FF033033 Serial number: 20160103500431
Coding: 0C10
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSVALEOMQB 001015
ROD: EV_SMLSVALEOMQB_VW37.rod
VCID: 3F8739A3A6B9F3BEA8-806A

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb
Part No SW: 5TA 920 751 HW: 5TA 920 751
Component: KOMBI 308 6421
Coding: 07A401186F84000801886B031401000000000000
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009046
ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009_VW26.rod
VCID: 0201F05795CB5E5687-8056

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels:| 5Q0-907-530-V1.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 AJ HW: 5Q0 907 530 F
Component: GW MQB High 128 1244
Revision: -------- Serial number: 0004545611
Coding: 0B0100041F087300FB00025C1C0F00010001050000000000000000000000
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewLear 013020
ROD: EV_GatewLear_013_VW37.rod
VCID: 79F397BBF81D1D8ED6-802C

Alternator:

Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module:
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5TA 959 442 B HW: 5TA 959 442 B Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
Component: E221__MFL-TAT H06 0023
Serial number: 0391614581801708AT2B
Coding: 2C0000

Battery Monitoring Control Module:
Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5QA 915 181 B HW: 5QA 915 181 B
Component: J367-BDMHella H10 9052
Serial number: 1076199303

Power Converter DC AC:
Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5Q0 907 155 D HW: 5Q0 907 155 D
Component: WECHSELRICHTE H55 0033
Serial number: 0177956

2 Faults Found:
231017 - Voltage Converter Temporary Malfunction
C113A FB [008] - Overcurrent in Secondary Circuit
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 145
Mileage: 125138 km
Date: 2019.08.24
Time: 10:53:50

Supply voltage: Terminal 30: 12.3 V
Terminal 15: OFF

66052 - Infotainment CAN Bus (SAE Bus E)
U0065 00 [008] - Performance
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 3
Reset counter: 139
Mileage: 119566 km
Date: 2019.07.13
Time: 16:33:40

Supply voltage: Terminal 30: 12.2 V
Terminal 15: OFF


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Address 2B: Steer. Col. Lock (J764) Labels:| 5Q0-905-861.clb
Part No SW: 3Q0 905 861 HW: 3Q0 905 861
Component: ELV-MQBB H05 0032
Serial number: 16000030040007
Coding: 0800000000000000
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_ELVMarquMQBB 001007
ROD: EV_ELVMarquMQBB_VW37.rod
VCID: 71E3AF9BA06D55CE6E-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386) Labels:| 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 959 593 E HW: 5Q0 959 593 B
Component: TSG FS 020 0041
Serial number: 120116EAB02147
Coding: 003B1320D200048000001000
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXKLO 006003
ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT_VW37.rod
VCID: 438F3553CA51975ECC-8016

Drivers Door Rear Control Module:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 959 811 A HW: 5Q0 959 811 A Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
Component: FOND_FHSG_DRV 005 0005
Serial number: 00000000000008509602
Coding: 010000

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500) Labels:| 5Q0-909-143.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 909 143 M HW: 5Q0 909 143 E
Component: MQB_PP_APA 204 2041
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 0000633300
Coding: 01010011005001
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisVWBSMQBA 008028
ROD: EV_SteerAssisVWBSMQBA_008_VW37.rod
VCID: 3D7B43ABACB5E1AEBA-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387) Labels:| 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 959 592 E HW: 5Q0 959 592 B
Component: TSG BFS 020 0041
Serial number: 130116EAD01418
Coding: 003B1120DE00048000801000
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXKLO 006003
ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT_VW37.rod
VCID: 42813057D54B9E56C7-8016

Passengers Rear Door Control Module:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 959 812 A HW: 5Q0 959 812 A Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
Component: FOND_FHSG_PSG 0005
Serial number: 005
Coding: 090000

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range (J431) Labels:| 5Q0-907-357.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 907 357 HW: 6R0 907 357 A
Component: LWR-ECU 005 0080
Revision: -------- Serial number: --------------
Coding: 07CA020009000000
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRMQB 001110
ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRMQB_VW26.rod
VCID: 75EB9B8BD40579EEB2-8020

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794) Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-STD2.clb
Part No SW: 3Q0 035 846 HW: 3Q0 035 846
Component: MU-S-N-ER 820 0624
Serial number:
Coding: 02730801FF00000051110001000808031F0100D4012001008F
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CDELP 001001
ROD: EV_MUStd4CDELP_VW26.rod
VCID: 6ED9B4E7B1534A3673-803A

Operating And Display Unit 1:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3G0 919 605 D HW: 3G0 919 605 D
Component: ABT_Std-2_Nav H43 4064
Serial number: VWZ6Z9S0550931

Data medium:
Subsystem 2 - Part No: 5NA 919 866 AG
Component: ECE AS 2020 1310

No fault code found.

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Address 6D: Trunk Elect. (J605) Labels:| 5Q0-959-107.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 959 107 J HW: 5Q0 959 107 J
Component: HDSG-Modul H13 0253
Revision: -------- Serial number: 30523495900000
Coding: 0308
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_DeckLidCONTIAU736 001012
ROD: EV_DeckLidCONTIAU736_VW37.rod
VCID: 3F8739A3A6B9F3BEA8-806A

No fault code found.

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Address A5: Frt Sens. Drv. Assist (R242) Labels:| 3Q0-980-65X-A5.clb
Part No SW: 3Q0 980 654 C HW: 3Q0 980 654
Component: MQB_B_MFK H04 0023
Serial number: 18021611P21036
Coding: 000307080000040100221344C050A10094000E200020
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_MFKBoschMQBB 001001
ROD: EV_MFKBoschMQBB_VW36.rod
VCID: 377751838E89CBFE60-8062

1 Fault Found:
1275 - Camera Interference
C1104 00 [024] - -
Intermittent - Confirmed - Not Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 92
Mileage: 119563 km
Date: 2019.07.12
Time: 23:34:35

Control Module temperature: 40 °C
Outside air temperature: 24.0 °C
Vehicle speed: 32.57 km/h
System run time: 16609.8 s (second)
Voltage terminal 15: 13.1 V
mid: 01 61
Camera_state: operational
Engine_Running_Info: 1
Software_Info_4: 3
Software_Info_3: 2
Software_Info_2: 0
Software_Info_1: 0


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[enriquez]

Nie wiem jak w Touranie, ale w Passacie czy Superbie, po prostu wymieniasz kierownicę i już. Żadnego kodowania.

[miirmar]

Kierownica wymieniona. Faktycznie nic nie trzeba było przekodowywać. Wystarczy zmienić kierownice i tyle. Ważne, żeby była to identyczna kierownica jak poprzednia -te same przyciski, obrazki, grafiki, itp, tyle, ze z manetkami. Wszystko działa.

[mkpol]

7 godzin temu, miirmar napisał:

Ważne, żeby była to identyczna kierownica jak poprzednia -te same przyciski, obrazki, grafiki, itp,

Głupoty Pan opowiadasz .

[miirmar]

tzn?

[mkpol]

Nie musi być identyczna

[miirmar]

Manetki może by działały przy każdym wariancie kierownicy, ale inne przyciski juz niekoniecznie. Rozmawiałem z człowiekiem, który tez zmieniał kierownice i wybrał inną, tzn miał chyba tempomat nieadaptacyjny a kupił kierownice do tempomatu adaptacyjnego i mu wyskakiwał bład jak chciał włączyć tempomat. Manetki owszem działały ale tempomat nie. Ja kupiłem identyczna, zresztą za rada innego kolegi z forum, który uczulał mnie na to, żeby kierownica była identyczna, i u mnie wszytko działa poprawnie

[GRENEK9]

Potwierdzam. Jeżeli są inne przyciski to wyskakują błędy. Można przełożyć stare przyciski do nowej kierownicy i będzie działać.

[mkpol]

Co nadal nie zmienia faktu, że manetki będą działały w każdym przypadku. A zdaje się o tym jest ten temat ...

[jihad]

@mkpol czepiasz się. Przecież nikt nie chce, żeby montując łopatki przestało mu działać cokolwiek innego. 

[mkpol]

true, przepraszam